In part one, Dr. Phil sits down with Rudy Giuliani, exploring his early career as Gotham’s crime-fighting superhero, his leadership during the 9/11 attacks that earned him the title “America’s Mayor,” and his recent legal troubles and disbarment. Giuliani shares his perspectives on U.S. foreign policy, particularly regarding China, and outlines his future plans to support Donald Trump and impact the federal government. Gain a comprehensive understanding of Giuliani’s journey, his controversial statements, and his unwavering commitment to his beliefs, offering a nuanced view of a polarizing figure in American politics.
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EP235: Rudy Giuliani: What Happened to America's Mayor?
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Rudy Giuliani's Early Accomplishments and Career
Giuliani's early career highlighted his role as a prosecutor who was tough on crime, particularly against mob bosses, corrupt politicians, and white-collar criminals. He gained a reputation as Gotham's crime-fighting superhero and later took credit for cleaning up New York City as its mayor.
Former Mayor of New York City; TIME Magazine "Person of the Year"; Partner, Giuliani Partners and Bracewell & Giuliani Exclusively WSB
Career Highlights:
A.B. 1965: Manhattan College
J.D., 1968: New York University
1970: Worked for the U.S. government, holding positions in the office of the U.S. attorney and in the Department of Justice.
1977-1981: Practiced law privately
1981: Justice Department as associate attorney general.
1983: President Reagan appointed Rudy Giuliani as the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York.
1993: Elected Mayor of the City of New York. Campaigning on the slogan "One City, One Standard," he focused on reducing crime, reforming welfare, and improving the quality of life.
1997: Re-elected with 57% of the vote in a city in which Democrats outnumbered Republicans five to one.
September 11, 2001: America suffered the worst attack in its history when terrorists crashed planes into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center.
2001: “Person of the Year” by TIME magazine.
January 2002: Private Sector-,Founded Giuliani Partners, a global security firm.
February 13, 2002: Knighted by the Queen of England, dubbed “Rudy the Rock” by French President Jacques Chirac, and
March 8, 2002: Former first lady Nancy Reagan presented him with the Ronald Reagan Presidential Freedom Award.
2005: Joined the Texas law firm Bracewell and Patterson as a partner and the firm was renamed Bracewell and Giuliani.
2008: Presidential campaign. Giuliani dropped out of the race in 01/08 and endorsed Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)
January 2016: Joined the New York City firm Greenberg Traurig
2016: Member of Donald Trump's presidential transition team. He served as the team's vice chair
Sources: Britannica, T. Editors of Encyclopaedia (2024, August 20). Rudy Giuliani. Encyclopedia Britannica; House.gov ; BallotPedia
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Legal Troubles and Indictments
Giuliani faces multiple charges including fraud, forgery, and election tampering. His role in the 2020 election controversies as Trump's attorney is discussed, as well as his intent to fight the charges. He has been disbarred in New York and is likely to be disbarred in Washington, D.C. He attributes his disbarment to political motivations, particularly animosities with Joe Biden.
"U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann — a Republican and Federalist Society member in central Pennsylvania — compared the campaign’s legal arguments to “Frankenstein’s Monster,” concluding that Trump’s team offered only “speculative accusations,” not proof of rampant corruption." AP-Trump’s legal team cried vote fraud, but courts found none
"Lies around the election results helped push an angry mob of pro-Trump rioters to storm the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 in an effort to stop the certification of Biden’s victory." WHYY.ORG - Giuliani disbarred in NY as court finds he repeatedly lied about Trump’s 2020 election loss
Georgia election worker suing Rudy Giuliani tells jurors that his lies made her fear for her life
The judge overseeing the defamation case has already found Giuliani liable, and Giuliani has acknowledged in court that he made public comments falsely claiming Freeman and Moss committed fraud while counting ballots.
“I was afraid for my life. I literally felt like someone going to come and attempt to hang me and there’s nothing that anyone will be able to do about it,” Moss said.
Jury awards $148 million in damages to Georgia election workers over Rudy Giuliani’s 2020 vote lies
“Money will never solve all my problems,” Freeman told reporters outside Washington’s federal courthouse after the verdict. “I can never move back into the house that I call home. I will always have to be careful about where I go and who I choose to share my name with. I miss my home. I miss my neighbors and I miss my name.”
Giuliani is one of 18 co-conspirators charged alongside Trump under the state’s RICO law, which is often used to prosecute criminal organizations.
Giuliani was charged on 13 counts:
Violation of the Georgia RICO act.
1970: The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act (RICO) was passed by Congress and signed into law by US President Richard Nixon.
The purpose of the RICO statute is "the elimination of the infiltration of organized crime and racketeering into legitimate organizations operating in interstate commerce."
Racketeering activity can cover a wide range of criminal activities, including gambling, extortion, arson, robbery, bribery, theft, and fraud. It is not limited to financial schemes.
"Pattern of racketeering activity" requires at least two acts of racketeering activity committed within ten years of each other.
February 1985: "Giuliani obtained indictments against New York’s Mob leaders and their lieutenants. He decided to prosecute the leaders of the families and their upper-level cohorts together under the federal RICO, for allegedly conspiring to commit felonies including contract murders, loan sharking, extortion, labor racketeering and drug trafficking. It was the first time RICO, passed by Congress in 1970, was employed to prosecute a major federal case."
January 13, 1987: Mafia Commission case-
"In a case prosecuted by then U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani, eight New York crime family bosses are convicted and sentenced to 100 years each in prison."
"The Georgia RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) Act is a law in the U.S. state of Georgia that makes a form of racketeering a felony. Originally passed on March 20, 1980, it is known for being broader than the corresponding federal law, such as not requiring a pecuniary profit."
3 counts of solicitation of violation of oath by a public officer
3 counts of false statements and writings
Conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer
2 counts of conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree
2 counts of conspiracy to commit false statements and writings
Conspiracy to commit filing false documents
Other Litigations
Rudy Giuliani Sued For $10 Million On Sexual Assault And Wage Theft Allegations By Former Employee (Forbes)
"I want to own you," Giuliani says to former employee in audio transcripts filed in New York lawsuit (CBS News)
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Controversial Statements and Defending Actions
Giuliani's various controversial statements and actions over the years, including his televised statements and his courtroom tactics, are defended. He emphasizes his intent behind his statements and actions.
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